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Old 08-21-09, 03:53 PM   #21
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I have the Griots Machine Polisher which is pretty similar to the Porter Cable but I use it strictly for polishing. I still hand apply Zaino. I can get a very thin coat on in 15-20 minutes and so for me the machine won't really cut my application or removal time. Plus, the polisher is hard to get into tight spots and gets pretty heavy after a while especially when applying multiple coats in one day.
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I use my PC for Zaino AIO, then hand apply and buff 1 coat of Z-5. I can do my Caddy in less than an hour.
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I use my PC for Zaino AIO, then hand apply and buff 1 coat of Z-5. I can do my Caddy in less than an hour.
That ain't happening with a black one....
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That ain't happening with a black one....
I just did a customers black 2010 C6 and all it took was Z-AIO with the Flex machine and a single coat of Z-5.
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Old 08-25-09, 03:14 PM   #25
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I just bought a new daily driver but the only color the dealer had was black. I have been pulling my hair out trying to get all the swirls in the paint out. So far the best method I have tried is to use my Machine Polisher with Griots Machine Polish #1 then #3 then use Griots "Best of Show Wax". Carboman and I did some tests last night and the Griots filled the remaining swirls more than the Z5. It also gave a better look to the paint. I have been using Zaino for years but on my black car it does not seem to be the best at filling scratches.

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Old 08-25-09, 08:10 PM   #26
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You may be moving the polisher too quickly or using too much pressure. Use small overlapping motions and use swirl remover which dissolves as it heats up. Do not move on to another area until those swirls disappear, otherwise all you're doing is grinding the larger particles over new surface leaving new marks. This is EXACTLY what car dealerships do because they "don't have time" to do it correctly. Think of swirl remover as if you were using finer and finer grit sandpaper to smooth a surface. Let the weight of the polisher do the work, don't try to rush it. Good luck.
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I just bought a new daily driver but the only color the dealer had was black. I have been pulling my hair out trying to get all the swirls in the paint out. So far the best method I have tried is to use my Machine Polisher with Griots Machine Polish #1 then #3 then use Griots "Best of Show Wax". Carboman and I did some tests last night and the Griots filled the remaining swirls more than the Z5. It also gave a better look to the paint. I have been using Zaino for years but on my black car it does not seem to be the best at filling scratches.
Mike, wax will always fill or hide swirls better than a synthetic, the problem is carnauba wax is gone after a rain or a wash, and on a daily driver that just does not cut it, on a garage queen you could maybe live with that, but unless you feel like reapplying carnauba every time it rains or you wash you car/truck you are better off fixing your paint and applying something that will give you durability, because every time you are applying and removing you are causing some swirls. If Z-5 is not filling your swirls they are simply too deep, you need to look at your "polishes and your buffing pads, black finishes are a whole different game to make them perfect, I have detailers that just do black cars/trucks, they require a different skill to get the perfect finish.
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Old 08-26-09, 09:01 AM   #28
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Mike, wax will always fill or hide swirls better than a synthetic, the problem is carnauba wax is gone after a rain or a wash, and on a daily driver that just does not cut it, on a garage queen you could maybe live with that, but unless you feel like reapplying carnauba every time it rains or you wash you car/truck you are better off fixing your paint and applying something that will give you durability, because every time you are applying and removing you are causing some swirls. If Z-5 is not filling your swirls they are simply too deep, you need to look at your "polishes and your buffing pads, black finishes are a whole different game to make them perfect, I have detailers that just do black cars/trucks, they require a different skill to get the perfect finish.
Thanks for the advice Carl. I just sent you a PM...
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Just an update on my black car detailing....After spending most of today with the buffer I was able to get all the swirls out of the car. 99% of the car is perfect but there are still some small scartches that will not come out. I will hit each one with Z-PC and apply the sealant. Thanks for all the advice.
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Just an update on my black car detailing....After spending most of today with the buffer I was able to get all the swirls out of the car. 99% of the car is perfect but there are still some small scartches that will not come out. I will hit each one with Z-PC and apply the sealant. Thanks for all the advice.
Mike, what type and color of pads are you using?
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Orange pads from Griots garage.
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