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Norm Clemmer
12-02-08, 03:28 PM
What's your opinion on this?
http://ammunitionaccountability.org/Legislation.htm
Bill Burkholder
12-02-08, 04:26 PM
I don't like it... Ammo has almost tripled in the last year due to the higher cost of raw materials, the war, and shipping (due to weight). Now another tax on top!!!! I was purchasing 1000 rounds of .223 at $109.'s with free shipping, now it's $159.'s for 500 rounds and $14.'s shipping. Even if the coded rounds cost .01 more each that's another $10.'s per 1000. It doesn't sound like a bunch of money but I shoot about 3000 rounds total per year of .45 and .223. It's just making it more difficult for the sport shooter who abides by the many firearm/ ammo laws.......
Bob Weiss
12-02-08, 04:27 PM
On the surface it sounds like a good idea---BUT
Bigger Government, more paperwork and cost. Criminals will deface the encoding anyway-after all they have criminal intent so what is filing off a few numbers.
Bob
Torch Red Ryder
12-02-08, 06:32 PM
I read the proposed legislation and once again the people who draft these laws assume that all the people will follow the law. Well it won't happen and only honest law abiding people will be the ones who follow the rules. The criminals will not care if they break this new law and once again the only people who are effected by this law are the people who aren't the problem. Why can't we just make it illegal to commit a crime. That should be the only law necessary. ;cc
carboman
12-02-08, 08:46 PM
I don't like it... Ammo has almost tripled in the last year due to the higher cost of raw materials, the war, and shipping (due to weight). Now another tax on top!!!! I was purchasing 1000 rounds of .223 at $109.'s with free shipping, now it's $159.'s for 500 rounds and $14.'s shipping. Even if the coded rounds cost .01 more each that's another $10.'s per 1000. It doesn't sound like a bunch of money but I shoot about 3000 rounds total per year of .45 and .223. It's just making it more difficult for the sport shooter who abides by the many firearm/ ammo laws.......
Yo Bill, 3000 rounds? Are you and Bob invading Cuba while on vacation. Unfortunately the laws only apply to those that decide to follow them.
C5pilot
12-02-08, 11:48 PM
Criminals will deface the encoding anyway-after all they have criminal intent so what is filing off a few numbers.
Bob
According to the source, the encoding is on the base of the projectile, it can't be filed off. My question is, what happens when ammo is stolen? You report it, right? So crooks pay a legal source to purchase ammo, then report it stolen. Voila, codes are obsolete, and the government just invented a NEW crime and a way to make money from it! Idiots.
Ed Bonk
12-03-08, 12:03 AM
I don't like it... Ammo has almost tripled in the last year due to the higher cost of raw materials, the war, and shipping (due to weight). Now another tax on top!!!! I was purchasing 1000 rounds of .223 at $109.'s with free shipping, now it's $159.'s for 500 rounds and $14.'s shipping. Even if the coded rounds cost .01 more each that's another $10.'s per 1000. It doesn't sound like a bunch of money but I shoot about 3000 rounds total per year of .45 and .223. It's just making it more difficult for the sport shooter who abides by the many firearm/ ammo laws.......
Bill - 1000 rounds. I didn't even have that much ammo on one night time ambush operation in Vietnam.
When a war breaks out I'm coming to your house.
Bill Burkholder
12-03-08, 01:28 AM
According to the source, the encoding is on the base of the projectile, it can't be filed off. My question is, what happens when ammo is stolen? You report it, right? So crooks pay a legal source to purchase ammo, then report it stolen. Viola, codes are obsolete, and the government just invented a NEW crime and a way to make money from it! Idiots.
Joe how about re-loads??? You buy the cases, primers, and bullet. A new cottage industry, non-encoded ammo!!! just sand down the codes. It's just another tax that the government is enacting to make money and put the gun/ ammo companies out of business. As Bob said there are laws on the books now just enforce them. Once again the minority, those who don't purchase guns/ ammo legally are making we law abiding citizens pay for their disrespect of the laws. Some states already require the firearms companies to fire the weapon and recover the bullet and send it to the state to be recorded for ballistics along with the owners info and the serial # on the gun.
Ed we now have 30 round magazines, not the 5 round ones you had:D makes the ammo go much faster not reloading all the time. ;ae;bl AND... you had jamming problems so that slowed you rate of fire, I have put almost 6k rounds through my AR-15 and had only 1 failure to feed!!!!;gab
C5pilot
12-03-08, 02:08 PM
Joe how about re-loads??? You buy the cases, primers, and bullet. A new cottage industry, non-encoded ammo!!! just sand down the codes.
That's fine but the method I described completely circumvents the law with no fuss, no muss.
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