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Tony B.96LT4
01-24-07, 06:27 PM
Hey Steve, How long do you need my car to apply the adhesive to the roof panel? Does it need to stay overnight?

SLAPSHOT
01-24-07, 07:11 PM
Tony you don't need to leave it .If it just needs foam. If the top is needed then when the top comes in it will need to be painted which will take a couple of days.

Silver O Six
01-24-07, 08:05 PM
Steve, Is it true that the foam a temporary fix and GM will replace the
roof panel when they figure out a permanente repair?? :confused:

Tony B.96LT4
01-24-07, 09:14 PM
Tony you don't need to leave it .If it just needs foam. If the top is needed then when the top comes in it will need to be painted which will take a couple of days.

So I just need to make an appointment then. Great!

Todd, it is my understanding that the foam is the "permanet" fix. If the foam fails then you get a new roof panel.

C5pilot
01-24-07, 10:48 PM
Steve, do you advise to have the foam treatment done even if we haven't had any issues?

Silver O Six
01-25-07, 07:13 AM
Steve, do you advise to have the foam treatment done even if we haven't had any issues?

Not to butt in on Steve, I had no separation and followed the recall anyway because if I didn't, and the dam thing blew off, would I be liable?;ae

Tony B.96LT4
01-25-07, 07:48 AM
Steve, do you advise to have the foam treatment done even if we haven't had any issues?

Joe, I don't know if the 07's were affected but from the letter I got if you have a recall and don't get the fix done and the roof separates, then it's on your insurance for any damage the roof may get or do to other property.

Mike Campbell
01-25-07, 12:25 PM
I knew I should have gotten the glass roof ! ;www

SLAPSHOT
01-25-07, 01:41 PM
The foam is a permanet fix and only none smc(white color under headliner) are going to be foamed or replaced if seperating only had two seperated so far all others were foamed.

C5pilot
01-25-07, 05:25 PM
Mine is a very early 07, I haven't checked but I think it's the old style. Steve can pull the VIN to double check. I have to bring the car in for other things so I'll put it on the list if it applies to mine.

JT-C6
01-25-07, 11:06 PM
An additional bulletin also mentions that this can apply to some 2007's. I imagine it depends entirely on whether you have the new SMC roof or the 3-ply polycarbonate. I remember someone on Corvetteforum saying there was a weight difference to easily tell them apart but I can't find that post. You can also see the repair procedure at this link:
http://temp.corvetteforum.net/c5/kenfichtner//paintedroofseparationbulletin.pdf

To elaborate on what Steve said....

2005 - 2006: Product Safety Recall: Body-Color Roof Adhesive Separation
GM SERVICE AND PARTS OPERATIONS
DCS1662
URGENT - DISTRIBUTE IMMEDIATELY

Date: October 12, 2006

Subject: 06041 – Product Safety Recall
Body-Color Roof Adhesive Separation
Phase 1 Customer Mailing

Models: 2005-2006 Chevrolet Corvette With Body-Color Roof

To: All Chevrolet Dealers

Attention: Service Manager, Parts Manager
and Warranty Administrator
PRODUCT FIELD ACTION ANNOUNCEMENT

General Motors is releasing Product Safety Recall 06041 today. The total number of vehicles involved is approximately 27,000 with 14,226 being released in the first phase. Please see the attached bulletin for details.

It is important to note that there are two different customer notification letters for this recall. One letter is for the general population, which includes vehicles that received a temporary roof repair as an interim remedy (labor code T5611). The other letter is for customers who had their roof panel replaced under Customer Satisfaction Program 05112 but did not have the additional adhesive applied to the new roof panel.

As each phase is released, Customer Satisfaction Program 05112 will be cancelled on vehicles involved in that phase. Vehicles that were not repaired under Customer Satisfaction Program 05112 will be transferred into this safety recall.

Any outstanding claims for Customer Satisfaction Program 05112 must be submitted for payment as soon as possible. To allow claims to process, Customer Satisfaction Program 05112 will remain open in GMVIS two weeks after the launching the phase. When you query GMVIS to determine eligibility, if Customer Satisfaction Program 05112 and Safety Recall 06041 both show as open, perform only Safety Recall 06041.

Mailing Information
Customer notification letter mailing will begin on October 19, 2006.

GM Vehicle Inquiry System (GMVIS)
GMVIS information for Phase 1 only is currently available.

Service Information System (SI)
Bulletin 06041 is scheduled to be available on October 13, 2006.

Campaign Initiation Detail Report (CIDR)
The CIDR for Phase 1 only will be available in GM DealerWorld on October 12, 2006.

Subject: GMP06-219 - 06041 Body-Color Roof Adhesive Separation, MODELS: 2005-2006 Chevrolet Corvette with Body-Color Roof

DESCRIPTION:
PRODUCT SAFETY RECALL #06041
DATED: OCTOBER 12, 2006

This recall is being administered in phases due to part availability. As parts become available, additional phases will be released and you will be notified.

As each phase is released, Customer Satisfaction Program 05112 will be cancelled on vehicles involved in that phase. Vehicles that were not repaired under Customer Satisfaction Program 05112 will be transferred into this safety recall. In addition, vehicles that had the roof replaced, and according to the repair order did not have the adhesive foam applied, will be called back for the adhesive installation. Vehicles that had the temporary roof installed (T5641) will also be called back for roof replacement.

CONDITION
General Motors has decided that a defect, which relates to motor vehicle safety, exists in certain 2005-2006 Chevrolet Corvette vehicles equipped with a body-color roof. Some of these vehicles have a condition in which the adhesive between the roof panel and the frame may separate. If there is a partial separation, the occupant may notice one or more symptoms, such as a snapping noise when driving over bumps, wind noise, poor roof panel fit, roof panel movement/bounce when a door or hatch is closed, or a water leak in the headliner. If there is a complete separation, the roof panel may detach from the vehicle. If this were to occur while the vehicle was being driven, it could strike a following vehicle and cause injury and property damage.

CORRECTION
Dealers are to apply adhesive foam to the roof panel to ensure the proper adhesion, or, if signs of separation are found, install a new design roof panel.


EFFECTIVE DATE:
Owner mailing is scheduled to begin OCTOBER 19, 2006.


GENERAL INFORMATION:

PARTS INFORMATION
Parts required to complete this recall are to be obtained from General Motors Service and Parts Operations (GMSPO). Please refer to your "involved vehicles listing" before ordering parts. Normal orders should be placed on a DRO = Daily Replenishment Order. In an emergency situation, parts should be ordered on a CSO = Customer Special Order.
Part Number Description Quantity/Vehicle
88861400 Adhesive Kit - Foam 2 (C06) (If Req'd)
1 (Z06) (If Req'd)
11561612 Bolt Asm (Z06) 10
19152839 Panel, RF( Paint to Match) (Z06) 1 (If Req'd)
19152840 Panel, RF Lift Off (Paint to Match) (C06 Std. Coupe) 1 (If Req'd)
10381648 Panel, Hdlng Tr (C06 Std. Coupe) 1 (If Req'd)

SPECIAL TOOL
Beginning the week of February 13, 2006, each Dealer was shipped a Two-Part Adhesive Applicator Gun, BO 48206, for use in Customer Satisfaction Program 05112. That gun will be required for this recall. The tool was furnished at no charge. Additional tools, if required, may be purchased by contacting SPX Kent-Moore at 1-800-468-6657.

hcvone
01-26-07, 07:28 AM
Is that only 2006's? Don't know if I want an 07' Z06 if my roof might come off. :(

Richy
01-26-07, 08:22 AM
Is that only 2006's? Don't know if I want an 07' Z06 if my roof might come off. :(
Carl,I thought the Z06 had a fixed roof??

Silver O Six
01-26-07, 08:23 AM
Carl, Check out JTs post with the recall information. Somewhere, there
there is VIN information of the effected cars. As you know, this has been going on quite a while and it becomes confusing of what cars are
in the recall. We do know that most of the "blowoffs" have occured in
high temp areas on dark colored cars. So, don't be afraid to buy a Z.
Just get a white one;bl and keep it in the shade!;ow

JT-C6
01-26-07, 09:04 AM
The Z06's were impacted by this as well. It does not matter that its a fixed roof, the adhesive still fails to stay sealed to the panel whether its a coupe or Z06 (see the TSB link that I posted above at the beginning of my long post). I would think any 2007 (Z06 or not) being made right now would be just fine. I would just be aware of any early production 2007 cars right now with regard to roof seperation. I also mentioned that a later service bulletin mentions that the 2005-2006 roof seperation issue could apply to some early production 2007's.

Perhaps Steve can tell us an easy way to spot the new SMC roof as opposed to 3-ply polycarbonate.

hcvone
01-26-07, 09:47 AM
You would hope they fixed it by 07', but it usually taked GM years like the column lock, I would pass on the Z06 if they are still having problems.

SLAPSHOT
01-26-07, 10:39 AM
The roof in the Z06 is just like removable roof diff nis that Zos roof is bolted down with 10 bolts.

hcvone
01-26-07, 11:00 AM
Thank you Steve

Silver O Six
01-26-07, 11:13 AM
Carl,I thought the Z06 had a fixed roof??

Richy, Check out all the posts on CF-c6zo6 section. All painted roofs
whether they are fixed or targa are in the recall. ;aw

Silver O Six
01-26-07, 07:56 PM
Richy, Check out all the posts on CF-c6zo6 section. All painted roofs
whether they are fixed or targa are in the recall. ;aw

Ya all want to join the confusion, check out the todays corvette forum
C6-Z06 section. It all boils down to what spence is already telling us.

Mike Campbell
01-27-07, 02:31 PM
If it looks like the roof is shot can we get a glass replacement for a small fee?;at

Tony B.96LT4
01-27-07, 07:47 PM
If it looks like the roof is shot can we get a glass replacement for a small fee?;at

No, you sir are out of line. :D I think they'd sell you one at the full price!!:D The foam seems to be working as Spence said and I haven't heard any creaking on my roof and it sat in the hot sun all summer.

Mike Campbell
01-29-07, 12:21 PM
I had to try. :D I'll wait till it's a little warmer to take it down since it's hibernating now.

SLAPSHOT
01-29-07, 03:01 PM
Mike Tony's right they will only replace with original type sorry.