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VetBoyZR1
07-30-03, 01:01 AM
Aren't these things illegal in PA? Don't you have inspection issues? Can you tell me if you were to mount one in your car where would you mount the solenoid and the switch? Do you have a system active light? Did I ask enough questions? Feel free to add to this. I'm thinking about trying the DRs, so this seems like a logical step if I move to another state. Do you burn out in 1st or 2nd? What speed (RPM/MPH)?

REDGAR
07-30-03, 01:54 AM
Wow we have created a monster.

Not sure about it being illegal in any state.

In NJ, they don't even open the hood so it is not an issue.

The solinoid goes right by master cylinder though some have put it under the car.

The switch can go anyplace. I have mine on the dash to the left of the the steering wheel. I used to have the switch I velcrod to the the shifter (it is really best close to the shifter so you can operate the line lock and shifter with one hand. Some have a switch on the center console.

Light is optional. I did not have one or want one but when I was at ECS last ask them to move my switch, the added the light as well. I know it is working or not when I don't roll so the light for me is not necssary.

No you did not ask too many questions:)

VetBoyZR1
07-30-03, 02:03 AM
Did you hear about the guy who uses his horn button for his line lock switch? He unplugs his horn at the track and plugs in his line lock! That is so clever, no wonder this guy is so cool! Thanks for the response Edgar. I need to talk to my mechanic about the inspection issue. This also takes the fun out of things like headers and messing with catalytic converters.

C5pilot
07-30-03, 02:42 AM
Originally posted by VetBoyZR1
Did you hear about the guy who uses his horn button for his line lock switch? He unplugs his horn at the track and plugs in his line lock! That is so clever, no wonder this guy is so cool! Thanks for the response Edgar. I need to talk to my mechanic about the inspection issue. This also takes the fun out of things like headers and messing with catalytic converters.

And what happens if he forgets to unplug it before leaving the track? After hearing this, I wouldn't be surprised if they're illegal.

wheelz
07-30-03, 08:31 AM
Carl,
Its illegal if you use it on the street, hense the ticket would be something like excessive wheel spin. Just like the nitous i can have it but you know if i use i'm going to break the speed limit so ya dont use it on the street. And as for passing inspection i had mine installed and the chevy dealer had no problems with inspection and with the nitrous gauge staring them in the face no problem, either one of those things are NOT part of inspection so u go boy put the linelock in and enjoy.

You can hide the activation button where u like as long as it's comfy for you to reach

Mike

wheelz
07-30-03, 08:39 AM
Originally posted by C5pilot


And what happens if he forgets to unplug it before leaving the track? After hearing this, I wouldn't be surprised if they're illegal.

Joe,
Nothing happens in order for the linelock to work you need to stop pump the breaks and then hold the button, You have seen where mine is on my hand controls i have hit that button more tymes then i can remember it will do nothing while the car is moving just the big ol rudolf red light will light up. However if the said driver above needed his horn then he would be SOL


Mike

Tony B.96LT4
07-30-03, 09:24 AM
Originally posted by wheelz


Joe,
Nothing happens in order for the linelock to work you need to stop pump the breaks and then hold the button, However if the said driver above needed his horn then he would be SOL


Mike

Yep, nothing happens. The horn doesn't blow either. :D

Mike Campbell
07-30-03, 10:30 AM
By the way Carl, it cannot go on unless you are stopped. Then you can activate it only by the switch. As for plugging and unplugging it off a horn sounds a little silly. You don't need one to use your DR's. Most of the guys that drive around the water just clean their tires off there and they don't use their Line Lock. So you don't have to get one if you have DR's. Now as what gear to heat up your tires.....I still don't know which is better..1st or 2nd. I think 2nd you get more spin on the wheels. I just feel reluctant about popping the clutch in 2nd, however, the engine has more than enough torque to deal with it. And as far as state inspection, who does you car and is it a safety hazard? If it cannot work when you're driving, unless you stop and manually activate it, when then opening your door fits under the same description! ;yn And they passed me even though my doors open.

C5pilot
07-30-03, 10:36 AM
But wait... aren't you usually ON the brakes when you hit your horn? :D

OK, so you're saying if you release the linelock and hit it again nothing will happen because there is no pressure, you'll just roll.

Mike Campbell
07-30-03, 10:44 AM
You got it Joe! Once I let if off, I can push it again to the cows come home and all that happens is the light goes on. I have to completely stop, pump the brakes & re hit it to make it work. By the way, congrats on your points! I think you'll get the Rookie Award! ;bt

REDGAR
07-30-03, 12:52 PM
Are we sure nothing happens when you push the button on the street?

the reason we push it after pressing the brake is to block the fluid form getting back to the brake fluid resevior to hold the caliper closed.

If you push this button without fluid close the caliper then wouldn't it then BLOCK fluid from getting there?

wheelz
07-30-03, 02:32 PM
Edgar,
Yes i am possitive nothing happens i hit mine alot it does nadda u must stop the car pump da brakes while holding the button then you have the linelock activated


Mike

REDGAR
07-30-03, 05:23 PM
Mike I apply the brake before pushing the button.

Is that what you meant?

wheelz
07-30-03, 05:30 PM
edgar,
u can do it either way but the car is stopped when your doing it


Mike

VetBoyZR1
07-30-03, 07:42 PM
The way I understand it, the solenoid will activate any time you push the button, but there will only be pressure on the front calipers if you had your foot on the brake when you pushed the button. If you activate the system when your foot is not on the brake, the solenoid will operate but there will not be any fluid pressure on the front calipers, so you would not notice anything.

YO-EL
07-30-03, 10:09 PM
"Officer, I swear that blue button is NOT a line lock...
Its the ejector button. ;yn "

VetBoyZR1
07-30-03, 10:13 PM
I like the integrated look of that install - who did your work Ellis?

Tony B.96LT4
07-30-03, 10:18 PM
Carl, I was told by Bryner that there can't be any mods to the brake systems. However if the person doesn't see the mod and it doesn't affect the way the car stops they probably won't check for a line lock. I've tried both first gear and second gear burnouts. Keep your rpm under 4000. BFG's need only 2-3 seconds after smoke appears. I have my linelock mounted next to the master cylinder but after doing some rethinking it may be better next to the ABS in the rear compartment, less obivous too. I chose to use the horn as my electrical source. I got a horn at the junkyard and took the plug off that and wired it to the linelock solenoid. At the strip I disconnect the horns and plug the wire from the solenoid to the horn wire. Some guys wire in a switch to just divert the power to the linelock. That way there is no switches mounted in the interior that didn't come from the factory. This method has worked well for me for the past year. Of course after racing all day I sometimes forget to plug the horns back in but I seldom use them anyway. ;aw

Bill Burkholder
07-30-03, 11:20 PM
Carl, Ellis had his done at Berrel Auto in Willow Grove. look in the Gas Cap for their info.

VetBoyZR1
07-31-03, 12:15 AM
Thanks for the info. I think if I do the install in the rear compartment with the ABS/ASR pump I'll be OK. I don't want to put my solenoid under the hood by the master cylinder. No doubt a better environment for the solenoid, too.